I think people are missing the point with all this. Or certainly the one I am trying to focus on. First let me start off with a few facts. For starters we make less money on Patreon now than we did n the first year although we have a few hundred more patrons Our listenership however has nearly doubled in the two years since launching patreon and yet we make less money per month. Did you read that ?Twice as many people listening with no financial gain. Going by current cost per thousand rates we could be netting 3 to 4 times per month what we make on Patreon if we were to run ads. The reason we don't do it is because it's wack i.e. not cool. and also a wack ineffective model period. Mind you there are also two of us. That all fucking being said the point was to remove the live episodes from the feed because they are becoming too many and too frequent. Many of my close friends who listen have expressed that they don't listen to them or do like them as much etc. I also feel a bit iffy about them as I believe they are much more funny and enjoyable when experienced there in the moment as opposed to only listening to them after the fact. It's not a ploy to get more money from you. To be honest there are better routes to take if that was our main focus. The point is to improve and maintain the consistency of the show and it's general vibe. I worry about new listeners hearing the show for the first time and it being a live show. While I don't think they are "garbage" as one listener so kindly put it. I do think they can sometimes lack whatever it is Seth and I have in the apt. together. I'm not asking people to up their pledge. Thank you to the people who do/have but it's not necessary and it's silly to do to try and make up for the people who don't. Literally the fraction of people who donate is minuscule and that's just the truth of the world. If I can incentivize more people to pledge by making more things only available behind the Patreon curtain then it is our right to do so. It should be clear however that the goal was to improve the overall quality and constnecy of our product and not to punish listeners. So yeah, Fuk outta here with that. J.