One ex Liverpool insider told me recently that it started going wrong after Brendan Rodgers had his teeth whitened.
One day people will cotton on that it's less the manager, and more the structure and system in English football. Has been for 25 years.
Stop calling it the London Stadium. That's what the powers that be want ahead of selling naming rights. It's the Olympic Stadium.
There is no joy in this Manchester United side. Giggs needs to assert himself and tell him that United play with joy.